This interview appears on Jeremy’s site, the Enuff Znuff Source.
(http://members.tripod.com/~znuff/). Thanks for letting me reprint it here!
I recently had the opportunity to chat with Chip Z'nuff for the first time, and he was nice enough to do a phone interview with me. So, I put aside my star struck-edness the best I could and got him to answer a few questions. Actually, there were quite a few questions, and he was cool enough to take time out of his busy schedule to talk for over a half an hour. He really is a great, down to earth guy. In addition to the highlights of our conversation that can be found below, Chip mentioned that the band plans to do another RollingStone/JamTv concert in the future.
J: Hello, Chip? How're you doing?
C: Hey buddy, doing good, how about yourself?
J: Pretty good, it's a great day outside, isn't it?
C: Oh it certainly is out here.
J: Well since I'm calling you at Stoney (Chip's record label), let's talk about what's
happening with your label a bit.
C: Yeah, I founded Stoney Records in 1995. Under Stoney, we've released of course
Peach Fuzz and Live, and also a band called Junebug, their CD is called "Ticket To Hell."
And I'm anticipating some new releases this year.
J: Are you taking any demos from bands?
C: Oh, tons. We're constantly getting packages. I receive about 5 or 10 tapes a week.
J: Let's talk about your new CD, Paraphernalia. Do you have a release date for the States
yet?
C: Yes, the release date right now is April 20th.
J: Is it going to be released through Mayhem/Stoney?
C: It will be released through Spitfire/ADA. There's been a lot of shake-ups at Mayhem
lately.
J: Yeah, I've heard a couple rumors of bankruptcy.
C: Actually, the last thing I've heard is that the president of the label is sleeping on a
mattress full of money. I've got to be honest with you, I'm not sure what they're doing
right now, except they didn't move fast enough on this Paraphernalia record. We went to
the label and said, "Look, we busted ourselves enough to get Billy Corgan (Smashing
Pumpkins), Rick Nielsen (Cheap Trick), and James Young from Styx on this album," but
Mayhem, they're still slow on their feet and we just felt we needed somebody that was
excited about what we're trying to do. This label is Spitfire/ADA, and it's a pretty strong
label. Good distribution. Some of the bands that are on there are Zakk Wylde, Union--the
guys from Kiss and Motley Crue, Down with Phil (Anselmo) from Pantera, Steve
Vai,Crowbar, and of course Enuff Z'Nuff. I'm sure there's a couple more that I can't think
of right now, but the main thing is they have a nice, eclectic catalogue of bands and I
think it's good for everybody.
J: Is there a finalized track listing for the U.S. version?
C: Uh yeah, it's basically the same as the Japanese version, except for a couple new
tracks. After "All Alone" is "Save Me" followed by another new track called "No Place
To Go," and then a new version of "Everything Works If You Let It" right before
"Loser..." So, fourteen songs in all.
J: Speaking of Billy Corgan, he appears on "Everything Works...", is that right?
C: That's correct, he played on two songs and one of them made the record.
J: How did working with Billy Corgan come about?
C: I've always liked Billy from Day 1. We never really spent a lot of time together
because they're a north-side band and we're a south-side group, and I saw him at a wake,
unfortunately, and we spent some time under weird circumstances and we talked about
music. So my drummer Ricky (Parent) asked him if he was aware of Enuff Z'Nuff and he
said, "Yeah, are you crazy? We got your CD in my car right now. So from
there I developed a relationship with one of his friends who works with him and from
there I met their road manager who everyone calls "Gooch." He's Billy's right hand guy
and he's the one who set it all up. I went out to one of their gigs and cornered Billy and
said, "Here's our new record, Rick Nielsen's on it, J.Y. from Styx is on it, and I'd like you
to play on it too." So he looked at the record and the first track that he noticed was
"Everything Works If You Let It" and he goes, "Oh man, you guys did that? That's one of
my favorite Cheap Trick songs." So I told him I'd love for him to play on it and within
weeks the road manager called and said, "If you can get a studio, Billy's available." He
was kind enough to come on down and bash out guitar on a couple songs, he didn't even
know the other song, he played on "No Place To Go" too, but I didn't use it, maybe I'll
save it for later. But he's on "Everything Works If You Let It" and he plays great on it.
J: That's great. I heard you're trying to go to Europe for a tour?
C: We don't know what we're doing right now as far as touring goes. We submitted bids
into a bunch of different tours that are happening, letting them know we're available. But
for right now, nothing's etched in stone. I think it's definite that we're going to Europe
eventually, I just don't know when. When the record is released here in North America, it
will also be released in Europe simultaneously.
J: So looking back at 1998, what was the biggest highlight for the band?
C: The Japan Tour...no if's or buts about it. Great country, wonderful people. They're very
sympathetic toward American rock and roll bands. We found ourselves playing to the
size audience that we used to in the States, it was wonderful...and that was with no
opening act.
J: And I heard Paraphernalia is doing really well over there too.
C: Yeah, it's doing very good, because we've gotten some radio support. Masa Itoh, Kosa
Kai, two big radio guys out there, they're really into the band. They're not only friends of
ours, but huge supporters, and they play everything off the records out there. Out there
you don't really pick one song like you do in the States, well you try to, but the DJs do
what they want. If they dig your band they'll play just about all the songs off every record.
It's because of them and the fans that we can go over there and support our tours. It's a bit
different in the States. Over there your travel by bullet train and over here it's usually a
van or a bus and it makes things a little more hectic. But no matter where, we love to
play. So to answer your question, the Japan tour was definitely the biggest highlight for
us. And of course this year the highlight is going to be able to put out a record with Billy
Corgan, Rick Nielsen, and J.Y. all participating cameo on half the album. It's total
flattery and hopefully we'll reach a lot more people because of it.
J: Switching topics, how's Donnie doing? I heard he's been working in some projects in
L.A...
C: Donnie's been doing good. Yeah, we did go out to L.A. and do a couple of things
actually. We're going to see what happens with it first before we brag about it, I mainly
want to focus on our new album. It's basically this little side thing that we're all
participating in.
J: Do you plan on making a return trip to Japan later on?
C: We've talked about that. It won't be until the end of this year, early next year.
J: Is that when you expect to have the follow-up to Paraphernalia out? You mentioned to
me yesterday that you guys have been pretty busy most nights lately working in the
studio.
C: Yes, we expect it out there around that time, and out here too. We want to work it out
so it comes out simultaneously and not have to have our fans wait. Most bands wait two
or three years to release an album, and we like to get one out every year, sometimes two,
but at least one.
J: You've been releasing material for 9 years and you've got 9 albums. One can't help but
be impressed.
C: Thank you. We have more where that comes from. We don't have enough time to put
them all out there. Times have changed. Back in the '60s and '70s when we were born,
bands would put out two albums a year. The Beatles were, I know that, the better bands,
the stronger groups. And then it stopped. And now people rely on one record, with one
single off that record. And if the single goes well, you get a chance to hear another song.
Otherwise, see you next record. That's basically how it is right now. The fans of the
music, myself included, I go out and buy records and listen to the whole thing, but now
we're in a generation where it's all singles. So every band gets their one shot to put there
song there and see if it catches on, and you hope for the best. And we're gonna get a shot
this year, we're really excited about this and that's all we can ask for.
J: On Paraphernalia, which song do you think you'll be promoting most, for public
attention? "Everything Works..."?
C: That's my choice, personally, but I think it's going to be "Freak." Nielsen played great
on that one. I would think the second one will be "Everything Works..." But who knows, I
don't pick that kind of stuff. We're too close to it, we're fans of all our music, so we'll let
the powers that be, some of the people who work through the label or work through
radio. And hopefully we'll be on the same page and come up with a great song that
everyone's happy with. Like I said before, that one song, that's it. If you don't find the
spark there, it's back to the drawing boards.
J: You mentioned before that you have a ton of backlog material. I've got a collection of
probably 40 songs of yours that hasn't been released, and a lot of it is really good. Do you
expect to put any of those out, like in a "Peach Fuzz II"?
C: Yeah, we may...I feel the whole catalog will be released, but it will be released under
a different umbrella so we can keep track of all of our records. We basically own all of
our albums, we just lease them to the record labels, they license the records off us and
put them out, for a certain amount of time.
J: One thing I've always been curious to, is how did you and Donnie meet and decide to
make music together?
C: Through a mutual friend of ours. I was playing in a band called "We're Staying" and
our friend said he met this guy in our hometown of Blue Island and I went down one
night, listened to some of his songs and listened to him sing, and I loved him. I drove him
home that night and asked him if he wanted to put something together with me
and he said he'd love to. He was adopted into the family the next week. He just lived with
his mother at the time, he was basically like a father of the household to his two little
sisters. And we just have a fine kinship when it comes to songwriting. We would just sit
in the basement with our little tape recorder for hours and hours writing tunes, that's how
we honed our craft.
J: Where did the name come from, "Enuff Z'Nuff"?
C: Actually it was a saying back with these older guys we were working with, good guys,
we were learning the ropes through them. One of the cats in the party mentioned the
name, except it was spelled differently than how he wanted to have it. And so we came
out as E-N-O-U-G-H Z'Nuff, and we changed it, of course to Enuff Z'Nuff with the funny
spelling because it sounded better and I was using the name "Z'Nuff" anyway. So it all
seemed to fit and stuck. When the label signed the band, they wanted to change the
name, they didn't want "Enuff Z'Nuff", they wanted us to be something else.
And so I said listen, I'll just change my name, just call me Chip, I don't have to be Chip
Z'Nuff, I don't care. And the company's president called me up a week later after he told
me for sure they were changing our name and said "You win." It was great, because it
had worked for years and years in the club circuit...and that's how it all started, my friend.
J: Well, I've taken quite a lot of your time. I really appreciate you letting me talk to you.
Do you have a message for the fans?
C: The fans are of the upmost importance, we love our fans and they're very important to
us. And they're great music lovers. I see fans at our gigs with all sorts of T-shirts on, from
Marilyn Manson to Korn, Pearl Jam, Cheap Trick and I've even seen a few Jellyfish and
Material Issue shirts recently. We have fans from all walks and we're very flattered. To
all of our fans: May the best thing that happened to you last year be the worst thing that
happens to you this year.